SUBJECT: COOPER (ET. AL.) FILE: UFO2662 Date: 02-04-92 20:52 From: John Powell To: John Stepkowski Subj: Cooper (et. al.) In a message to John Powell <03 Feb 92 2:18> John Stepkowski wrote: >>> G'Day! (Sorry, I couldn't resist... ) > G'day John! I was going to use that salutation when I posted my first > message to you, but I wasn't too confident about it then. Now that I > see you're multi-lingual, I can throw my Australian-American > dictionary away and get stuck in full bore, no worries mate! - > (downunder grin) Hey! Do kangaroos adhere to the WBA or WBC boxing rules? And what's this I hear about ya'll swimming with aligators and crocodiles (!), are ya'll crazy or what? On a serious and slightly related item, exactly what is the TV show called Beyond 2000? I see it here on the Discovery Channel, a cable TV channel, and I know it is Aussie but is it export or is it a real show that you guys watch too? > Moore seems to be like Stevens, involved in _many_ aspects of > ufology; Philadelphia Experiment, MJ-12, Falcon, Condor etc. I'd > welcome your thoughts on him. Moore: He admitted to spying on private citizens for the US gov't. He admitted telling carefully gov't-contrived lies and disinformation to private citizens and reporting back to the gov't on the progress of that activity. (If he admitted this much then one must wonder what _else_ he's done but has not yet confessed...) I do not hold him in high regard... Stevens: As far as I can tell he is simply a businessman - nothing more. > The Lovette I was referring to was allegedly abducted by a UFO at a > military base and his body was recovered badly mutilated some days > later. I'll check the text file I read this in and get back to you > if you like. Please do, I have no references on a Lovette except for English's mention in the alleged Blue Book #13: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- [...] Report gave clear indication of reports of human mutilations, most notably was a case witnessed by Air Force personnel in which an Air Force Sgt. E-6 by the name of Jonathan P. Lovette was observed being taken captive aboard what appeared to be a UFO at the WHITE sands Missile Test Range in New Mexico. This abduction took place in March of 1956 at about 0300 local and was witnessed by Major William Cunningham of the United States Air Force Missile Command near Holloman Air Force Base. Major Cunningham and Sgt. Lovette were out in a field downrange from the launch sites looking for debris from a missile test when Sgt. Lovette went over the ridge of a small sand dune and was out of sight for a time. Major Cunningham heard Sgt. Lovette scream in what was described as terror or agony. The Major, thinking Lovette had been bitten by a snake or something ran over the crest of the dune and saw Sgt. Lovette being dragged into what appeared to him and was described as being a silvery disk like object which hovered in the air approximately 15 to 20 feet. Major Cunningham described what appeared to be a long snake-like object which was wrapped around the sergeant's legs and was dragging him to the craft. Major Cunningham admittedly froze as the sergeant was dragged inside the disc and observed the disc and observed the disc going up into the sky very quickly. Major Cunningham got on the jeep radio and reported the incident to Missile Control whereupon Missile Control confirmed a radar sighting. Search parties went into the desert looking for Sgt. Lovette. Major Cunningham's report was taken and he was admitted to the White Sands Base Dispensary for observation. The search for Sgt. Lovette continues for three days at the end of which his nude body was found approximately ten miles downrange. The body had been mutilated;the tongue had been removed from the lower portion of the jaw. An incision had been made just under the tip of the chin and extended all the way back to the esophagus and larynx. He had been emasculated and his eyes had been removed. Also, his anus had been removed and there were comments in the report on the apparent surgical skill of the removal of these items including the genitalia. The report commented that the anus and the genitalia had been removed `as though a plug' which in the case of the anus extended all the way to the colon. There was no sign of blood within the system. The initial autopsy report confirmed that the system had been completely drained of blood and that there was no vascular collapse due to death by bleeding. Sub- comment was added that this was unusual because in any body who dies of bleeding or in the case of a complete blood loss there is always vascular collapse. Also noted was that when the body was found there were a number of dead predatory type birds within the area who apparently had died after trying to partake of the sergeant's body. There were a number of extremely grisly black and white photographs. From all indications the body had been exposed to the elements for at least a day or two. The New Mexico sun in the desert is extremely hot and debilitating under normal circumstances. [...] Major Cunningham was initially accused of murdering Sgt. Jonathan P. Lovette. Charges were later dropped. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I have no idea if any investigation of these claims was ever undertaken. Given that a month/year are available, a specific location, and _two_ names it shouldn't be overly difficult to determine if such people did or do exist in the US military. (On the other hand, _not_ finding them listed in the military could be taken by some to indicate a cover-up...) > The rocket incident was definitely not mentioned in the Grudge 13 > document I've seen. It is in another document, generally named CHAP1.* (about 50Kb), and was essentially the working draft/outline for Bill's great American novel-to-be. Let me know if you can't get ahold of it. The Grudge 13 material suffers from one glaring problem: It does not contain anything _new_, it precisely parallels the known phenomenon plus the alleged phenomenon but does not provide _anything_ that hasn't already been allegedly reported... I find that curious... > John Powell writes: "Dear You Asked For It, I've long wanted to know > what goes on in the 'Blue Room' at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. A > friend of mine says it contains lots of little grey aliens and bits > of flying saucers. I'd love to know what REALLY goes on in there. > "Okay John, let's go and take a look because ... _You_ Asked For It! Cool! > (Much easier than messing around with all that FOIA stuff, eh? Only > problem is, I wonder what sort of TV reception you'd get in > Levenworth?) Now that you mention it that FOIA stuff does look better already... Thanks, take care. John. ********************************************** * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * **********************************************