SUBJECT: DON ECKER ON MARINA POPOVICH FILE: UFO2168 From Don Ecker... Having attended the World UFO Congress in Tucson, Ar. for UFO Magazine, I had the distinct pleasure of meeting Dr. Marina Popovich who was one of the Congress speakers. Dr. Popovich is a Soviet citizen who was here speaking on her UFO research in the Soviet Union. Marina Popovich, Ph.D., is a graduate of the University of Leningrad, graduated from the Military Flight School, is a retired Colonel from the Soviet Air Force, and set over 100 aviation records of which 90 still stand unbroken. Dr. Popovich's former husband is General Paval Popovich, the first man to rendezvous with another space craft in orbit during the Vostok 4 flight in August, 1962. Interviewing Dr. Popovich in Tucson, I learned of a number of incidents that had allegedly occurred during the 1989 Soviet Phobos 2 probe, and upon returning to LA I contacted a producer that I know for the NBC television program "Hard Copy". We ended up doing a segment with Marina that detailed the admittedly fantastic story of Phobos 2, ( during a JOINT US-USSR-EUROPEAN space mission ) and what appeared to be a huge and artificial object between Mars and her moonlet Phobos, that may have either intentionally or unintentionally destroyed the probe Phobos 2. I can state that because even the mission control specialists at Glavkosmos claim that Phobos 2 was probably hit by something ( meteors and debris dust was ruled out according to the report in the UK publication NATURE made by the Soviets ) which caused the probe to become a "spinner" that later completely disappeared. The Soviets then released a photo that Phobos 2 took of a very long "ellipse" reflected off of Mars, but the last several photos of the "object" were never released by the Soviets. Marina then told me that this was a high topic of discussion between President George Bush and Secretary General Mikhil Gorbachev at the Malta Conference. She received the information from a source of hers in the Soviet Politburo. Still the photo showing this object remained in "limbo" with the Soviets refusing to release it, and NASA of course, not mentioning any of these events. On June 7th Marina returned to the Los Angeles area to be a featured speaker for the World Harmony Expo in Long Beach. The Hard Copy producer, Mr. Dean Vallas, Guy Kirkwood, a former US Air Force fighter pilot who had a UFO experience on duty and myself, met with Marina over drinks and discussed her last trip, ongoing events in the USSR, and then much to the surprise of us all, produced one of the photos from Phobos 2, showing the "object". According to her, once back in the USSR, she contacted several friends in Glavkosmos, and they gave her the print of this "thing". It shows an object off of the moonlet Phobos, that is approx. 25 kilometers long, approx. 1 1/2 kilometers in dia., and is a cylindrical cigar shaped "craft?". Not being a photo analyst, I can only give my own impressions. However, I asked for a copy of the said photo, and upon receiving it, I intend to hand it over to some contacts at JPL for analysis. My feelings on the above? There is no doubt that a large degree of "high strangeness" is present in the above events. That of course is my own opinion. However until such time as NASA or JPL release the information that they may have, this will continue to be an interesting but apocryphal series of stories. I will state that I do feel there is a basis of fact in the above series of incidents, and will continue to investigate via my contacts to see what additional events can be verified. Don Ecker ********************************************** * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * **********************************************